Beeper

There are some people I talk to on multiple platforms & it would be incredibly useful if I could see all of these conversations in one place. I understand this isn't trivial but this is how I would expect it to function: - New UI element that the send button includes a drop down to select which platform you want to message this person on. - Default response is configurable per conversation and can be set to "respond on their most recent platform" - If you reply in a thread, it always uses the platform that thread is from I understand this is a non trivial amount of work to implement but it would be so incredibly handy! Thanks for reading.

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Basically, what the title says ~ is anyone having issue with beeper right now? Update: Seems to be working again now 🤷

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Firstly ~ I'm a huge fan of beeper! Can't wait for a paid tier to come out so I can support it. I recently got my partner on to beeper as well & I was wondering what platform do y'all prefer for messaging with other people also on beeper? At the moment we're using WhatsApp via beeper (we were using WhatsApp before) ~ I'm considering moving to matrix on beeper, but it seems much less feature complete (Can't show her profile picture on it since rooms can only have one photo for everyone, typing indicator doesn't function, etc.) I'd like to move away from Meta-owned WhatsApp. What do you suggest?

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Brad Murray has confirmed that all bridges will migrate away from being Matrix Appservices (“cloud bridges”), although the option to self-host your own version of beeper’s Appservices will remain an option > **Brad Murray** The current plan is for each client to send and receive with their own locally running connections, as opposed to letting one client use another client's connections to send in real time. We've had some pretty bad experiences with the old androidsms bridge with that architecture (since only your Android phone could send or receive a SMS). > **Brad Murray** We're still going to keep all our bridges open source and usable as Matrix Appservices, so if you want to use any Matrix client it's probably best to self-host against Beeper's homeserver (which we'll still support) or just run your own homeserver with our open source bridges

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Finally able to use WhatsApp on my iPad via [@beeper](https://lemmy.ml/c/beeper) 🥳🎉🙌🏽

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> we are proud to share that Beeper is out of beta! Feb 2022, https://web.archive.org/web/20230401112602mp_/https://blog.beeper.com/p/beeper-update-4-out-of-beta > Beeper is (finally) out of beta today, https://blog.beeper.com/2024/04/09/beeper-is-now-available/

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https://twitter.com/ericmigi/status/1763694753848479844 > Built for speed and performance, with a complete redesign of the look and feel. You'll be able to try it for yourself soon… > A small sample of the many new features: > - OLED black theme > - Local message cache (all chats open instantly) > - Add/modify chat networks (no need to set up on desktop) > - Chat bubbling > - Tablet (multi-pane) mode > - Full message search (across all your chat networks) He added, on Matrix, “Plan is to offer local bridges for all encrypted networks” Although confirming this would be the case at launch, it was unclear specifically which networks are counted as encrypted.

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youtube.com

CEO Eric Migicovsky reports that there are more than 100,000 Beeper Cloud users

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Josh is an employee of Beeper; screenshot is from Beeper’s official chat room on matrix. The Digital Markets Act comes into effect Wednesday, March 7, 2024

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multiple reports on Discord, Matrix, and Telegram, seem to suggest that, without any notice, Apple is lifting the hardware bans which had been applied to Apple users who had used their Macs and Apple IDs with Beeper

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Bloomberg reports that the three additional potential gatekeepers, namely: iMessage, Bing, Edge, have all been excluded The above graphic thereby shows all those that will be targeted on March 7 via [The Verge](https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/23/24047861/microsoft-edge-and-bing-may-avoid-the-eus-latest-regulations)

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appleinsider.com

Beeper is said to be focusing on adding other chat networks to their “Mini” app, and preparing for a relaunch.

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https://telegra.ph/Apple-Set-to-Avoid-EU-Crackdown-Over-iMessage-Service-01-15

Bloomberg says no, according to “people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity.” The decision is to be officially released by the EU in February 2024

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Beeper previously asked their first officially appointed Reddit mod to join the telegram group, where [he spammed NSFW content](https://t.me/beeperapp/1118) Announcement: https://www.reddit.com/r/beeper/s/LBncfZnIsb Beeper’s official discord invite, provided by Daniel “captain booty clap” Ramirez: https://discord.gg/zf6hf6UY4G update: Beeper is also permanently banning from their subreddit anyone who mentions “Telegram” or “Lemmy” update 2: Eric Migicovsky added a comment that the discord was made at his request; therefore it is official

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https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-disputes-eu-rules-labelling-its-5-app-stores-one-service-2024-01-08/

Apple claims it “does not monetise iMessage via the sale of hardware devices” it further claims it runs 5 completely separate App Stores

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www.nytimes.com

> investigators have examined how the Apple Watch works better with the iPhone than with other brands, as well as how Apple locks competitors out of its iMessage service

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www.howtogeek.com

By default, iCloud backups are (1) enabled and (2) **unencrypted** You would have to get not only yourself and every person you’re chatting with to manually enable encryption for their iCloud backups on their iPhones, but also _every device they have_ that is using iMessage

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**Update**: it _may_ be limited to those using a hackintosh in conjunction with beeperserv (the jailbreak tweak). Still kind of lousy of them to lock the reddit topic though… Several users recently reported that after using pypush—the tool that Beeper paid $25,000 for in order to build Beeper Mini—Apple banned their genuine Apple hardware devices from accessing iMessage. When their comments were shared to the r/Beeper subreddit, one of the mods whom Beeper appointed decided to lock the comments, citing the “need to investigate this further” and directing concerned users to “reach out to support through the appropriate channels.” for all the latest beeper and matrix news, join [BeeperApp](https://t.me/beeperapp) on Telegram

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for all the latest beeper news don’t forget to [join us on telegram](https://t.me/beeperapp)

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nitter.1d4.us

In the new year, we’re shifting focus back to our long-term goal of building the best chat app on earth

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blog.beeper.com

edit 2: changed url to official one, now that the article is live

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github.com

The jailbroken iPhone should have iOS 10 or greater on it. This new solution allows Beeper Mini to work again, with the caveat that you need an old iPhone that sits at home. With Beeper Mini working on your Android phone (including number registration), you also have the option of adding that phone number to Beeper Cloud.

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_(letter was OCR’d from [this scanned letter](https://fixupx.com/jolingkent/status/1736601539790446592))_ We write regarding Apple's potential anticompetitive treatment of the Beeper Mini messaging application. We have long-championed increased competition, innovation, and consumer choice in the digital marketplace. To protect free and open markets, it is critical for the Antitrust Division to be vigilant in enforcing our antitrust laws. That is why together we have led efforts in Congress to ensure the agency has the authorities, tools, and resources necessary to police abuses of market power. Earlier this month, Beeper introduced Beeper Mini, an interoperable messaging service that allows users of the Android mobile operating system to communicate with users of Apple's iMessage service. Previously, Android users were unable to securely communicate with iMessage users and were relegated to using decades-old, unencrypted SMS technology. Within days of its launch, Beeper Mini users began to experience service disruptions. Apple admitted it took action to disable Beeper Mini, citing security and privacy concerns for iMessage users. Apple executives have previously admitted the company leverages iMessage to lock users into Apple's ecosystem of devices and services. Beeper Mini threatened to reduce this leverage creating more competitive mobile applications market, which in turn a more competitive mobile device market. Earlier this year the Department of Commerce released a report titled Competition in the Mobile Application Ecosystem, describing Apple as a "gatekeeper" with a "monopoly position" in its mobile app ecosystem. The Department of Commerce observed that "antitrust enforcement is essential for ensuring competition in the mobile app ecosystem." These findings are consistent with those of numerous other antitrust enforcers and international competition authorities. In December 2015, Beeper's Chief Executive Officer, Eric Migicovsky, testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Competition Policy, Antitrust, and Consumer Rights. He expressed concern that dominant messaging services would use their position to impose barriers to interoperability and prevent Beeper entering and delivering services that consumers want. Given Apple's recent actions, that concern appears prescient. As you know, interoperability and interconnection have long been key drivers of competition and consumer choice in communications services, from telephones to email. Startups and small businesses drive innovation, create jobs, and can disrupt entrenched incumbents when allowed to compete. But consumers will never benefit from competition if dominant firms are allowed to snuff out that competition at its incipiency. We are therefore concerned that Apple's recent actions to disable Beeper Mini harm competition, eliminate choices for consumers, and will discourage future innovation and investment in interoperable messaging services. We also fear these types of tactics may more broadly chill future investment and innovation from those that seek to compete with existing digital gatekeepers. Thus, we refer this matter to the Antitrust Division to investigate whether this potentially anticompetitive conduct by Apple violated the antitrust laws.

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Watch on [Telegram](https://t.me/beeperapp/872) or on [twitter](https://twitter.com/CBSMornings/status/1736764694470250773)

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Once enacted, it will be the British counterpart to the EU's Digital Markets Act. This bill is expected to force interoperability with many things, including messaging platforms. iPhone has a 51% market share in the UK. [Wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Markets,_Competition_and_Consumers_Bill) | [bills.parliament.uk](https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3453/stages/17632)

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https://nitter.1d4.us/onbeeper/status/1735127340357918874

Apple appears to be deliberately blocking iMessages from being delivered to ~5% of Beeper Mini users. Uninstalling and reinstalling Beeper Mini fixes the issue. Affected Beeper Cloud users - please contact Beeper Help. We can fix it very easily for you if you let us know.

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t.me

Where we gather all the latest news about Beeper, Matrix, and messaging apps and protocols

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www.theverge.com

> At Apple, we build our products and services with industry-leading privacy and security technologies designed to give users control of their data and keep personal information safe. We took steps to protect our users by blocking techniques that exploit fake credentials in order to gain access to iMessage. These techniques posed significant risks to user security and privacy, including the potential for metadata exposure and enabling unwanted messages, spam, and phishing attacks. We will continue to make updates in the future to protect our users.

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There are reports on the pypush discord server that it is all but confirmed that Apple has changed something on the iMessage servers to block Beeper Mini users

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Can anyone suggest a solution to this. I contacted beeper on the email address given in the App Store listing but have had no response or even acknowledgement. I can log in using my Google Account, have subscribed and have given permissions but when it comes to the phone registration stage I always get the error “Something went wrong please check your network settings or try again later” What I’ve done to troubleshoot. Checked network settings Checked for update Cleared cache and storage Uninstalled and re-installed Tried a different phone Tried SIMs from different providers (Vodafone, O2, Lebara) I’m seeing other reports of this in the UK and Ireland , so suspect it’s just poor code. But does anyone have any more ideas?

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