🌿 kratom

https://lemmy.world/post/3672406

> > > How much Kratom do you usually have? > > > > Since Kratom is relatively cheap and its regulatory future is uncertain, I’m trying to stock up. Currently, I’m sitting at 4 Kg, but would like to increase that to \~10 Kg. > > > > Such stock would last me a couple of years. I can keep consuming the oldest packages while replenishing the stock. > > > > Buying in bulk, I’m trying to find both good price and quality, but that’s not easy … > > original: [https://lemmy.world/post/3672406](https://lemmy.world/post/3672406) thread on kbin.social: [https://kbin.social/m/kratom@lemmy.world/t/371544/Do-you-stock-up-on-Kratom#comments](https://kbin.social/m/kratom@lemmy.world/t/371544/Do-you-stock-up-on-Kratom#comments)

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[\#kratom](https://kbin.social/tag/kratom)

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www.kratomscience.com

Recent media reports about kratom-related deaths are leaving out basic information about these tragic events. Preexisting conditions and possible drug interactions are sparsely mentioned or left out of reports entirely. Media is also using the term “kratom” to describe all products, from fresh leaf to extract to kratom products mixed with other substances (such as phenibut, tianeptine, and kava). For example, in a recent New York Post article, Jeanette Settembre wrote of Krystal Talavera, “her partner found her collapse beside a cup of hot coffee and an open bag of ‘Space Dust,’ one of the names under which kratom is marketed.” The only companies we have found selling a product called “Space Dust” is Kratom Distro, who sold this as an extremely strong extract to Ms. Talavera, and another company who was selling regular leaf powder, not an extract, under the same name.

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www.kratomscience.com

Dr. Kirsten Smith of National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) joins us once again to talk about an upcoming comprehensive study that will include a detailed nationwide survey, testing of kratom samples, and testing select individual kratom consumers. We also cover several papers that Dr. Smith led or co-authored that have been published since her last appearance in summer of 2021 (Episode 55), addiction vs. dependence, dose escalation, and the role of extracts, kratom consumer demographics, a guide on kratom to educate healthcare providers, kratom as an alcohol replacement, an is kratom a gateway drug into opioids?

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www.kratomscience.com

There are a few popular methods of using powdered leaf, but the most common are with capsules or tablets, “toss and wash”, mixing with food, and preparation as a tea. The following is a guide to help users discover their favorite way to enjoy kratom:

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sopuli.xyz

Same set up but on lemmy instead of kbin. More coming soon.

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www.kratomscience.com

The alkaloid speciogynine may be a starting point for low-risk treatment Self-reports of kratom use as an alcohol substitute exist online, though they have not been as well documented in the scientific literature as other motivations for kratom use, such as substitution for opiates (Smith et al, 2023). In one survey of US residents, 18% of current users and 11.5% of past users reported they used kratom “To cut down or quit using alcohol” (Coe et al, 2019). This motivation has also been documented among Southeast Asian users who are more likely to engage in the centuries-old traditional practice of chewing fresh kratom leaf or preparing it as a tea (vs. eating dried powder and using extracts, more common in the West). A qualitative study of 34 Thai kratom users found: > Almost all regular krathom users did not drink alcohol although some used to drink it before being krathom chewers. Krathom was believed to be an aid to those who wanted to stop drinking. An ex-drinker explained: > > “After I use krathom, I can’t stand the alcohol strong smell. If I drink even a bit, I would have an extreme headache and vomit, get sick and have a hangover. I cannot work and have to take a rest.” The study also explained that kratom use in this region of Thailand was more socially acceptable than the use of alcohol, tobacco, or cannabis, in part because of better social functioning of people who use kratom over other drugs (Saingham et al, 2013). This implies a social motivation for someone to choose kratom over alcohol.

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www.justice.gov

Found via: [California Kratom Crook busted! Scam Ripoff Money Laundering 😮 - Double M Herbals](https://www.doublemherbals.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=11579) > > > Press Release > > > > Kratom Company and Owner Plead Guilty to Illegal Importation and Money Laundering > ========== > > > > Monday, July 10, 2023 > > > > **For Immediate Release** > > > > U.S. Attorney's Office, Southern District of California > > > > [Kelly.Thornton@usdoj.gov](mailto:Kelly.Thornton@usdoj.gov) > > > > **NEWS RELEASE SUMMARY – July 10, 2023** > > > > SAN DIEGO – Nine2Five LLC and its owner, Sebastian Guthery, pleaded guilty in federal court today to felony crimes related to the illegal importation of kratom, an opioid-like plant, and the subsequent laundering of proceeds from the sale of the illegally imported product. > > > > *Mitragyna speciosa*, commonly known as kratom, is indigenous to Southeast Asia. Its leaves, when ingested, have both narcotic and stimulant-like effects. According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the use of kratom is associated with serious health risks, including but not limited to seizures, liver damage, addiction, and death. Side effects may also include respiratory depression, nervousness, agitation, aggression, sleeplessness, hallucinations, delusion, tremors, loss of libido, constipation, nausea, vomiting, and severe withdrawal signs and symptoms. > > > >  On February 28, 2014, the FDA issued Import Alert 54-15, which directed inspectors to detain products that appeared to contain kratom as well as named product from specified firms without inspection, and to deny them entry into the United States. The Import Alert stated that the FDA had determined kratom to be a new dietary ingredient under section 413(d) of the Act, and deemed products intended for human consumption containing kratom to be adulterated food under section 402(f)(1)(B) of the Act because there was inadequate information to provide reasonable assurance that the new dietary ingredient kratom did not present a significant or unreasonable risk of illness or injury. This Import Alert remains in effect. > > > > In pleading guilty, defendant Guthery admitted that, as the owner and operator of Nine2Five LLC, he caused the importation of 9,800 kg of kratom from Indonesia through a consignee named Middleton Central, LLC, by means of an invoice which falsely declared the product to be Flora Food Botanical Soil Conditioner (*Eucheuma spinosum*)/fertilizer, without reasonable cause to believe that was true. The invoice submitted on May 16, 2018, with the entry package, stated that the value of the goods was $61,728. > > > > Defendant Nine2Five, LLC, in pleading guilty to money laundering, admitted that a Nine2Five, LLC. employee wired $60,000 from an account of Nine2Five, LLC at Wells Fargo Bank in San Diego, California, to Bank Mandiri in Indonesia for the cost of the purchase, transportation and importation of kratom from Indonesia on May 15, 2018. The funds constituted criminally derived proceeds of the illegal importation of kratom in the manner acknowledged by Guthery in his plea, which constituted a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 542 and 545. > > > > “Making false declarations about the nature of products imported into the United States will not be tolerated,” said U.S. Attorney Randy Grossman. “The Department of Justice and our agency partners are committed to protecting our nation from importation crimes and related offenses.” Grossman thanked the prosecution team plus the Internal Revenue Service, Homeland Security Investigations, and Customs and Border Protection agents for their excellent work on this case. > > > > “HSI San Diego is deeply immersed in the global fight against illegal importation and money laundering,” said Chad Plantz, special agent in charge for HSI San Diego. “Attempting to smuggle even more harmful substances into our communities will not be tolerated. Further, deceiving law enforcement is illegal and by doing so only increases the severity of penalties. HSI is actively engaged with law enforcement partners and task forces to bring perpetrators who knowingly and willingly break the law to justice.” > > > > “Sebastian Guthery and Nine2Five LLC went unchecked by mislabeling imports of kratom to evade detection and inspection by U.S. authorities and laundering the criminally derived proceeds internationally to purchase more kratom. The import laws and regulations are in place to protect our citizens and our nation,” said Tyler Hatcher, Special Agent in Charge of IRS Criminal Investigation Los Angeles Field Office. “This should put the kratom industry on notice, illegally importing products into the United States for your own financial gain is a crime and disregarding U.S. import laws and import alerts will not go unnoticed, you will be held accountable.” > > > > Sentencing for both defendants is scheduled to take place on October 6, 2023 at 9:30 a.m. before U.S. District Judge Todd W. Robinson. > > > > **DEFENDANTS Case Number 23cr179-TWR** > > > > * Nine2Five, LLC Formed: 2012 Carlsbad, CA > > > * Sebastian Guthery Age: 40 Carlsbad, CA > > > > > > **SUMMARY OF CHARGES** > > > > * Defendant Sebastian Guthery > > > * Entry of Goods by Means of False Statement – Title 18, U.S.C., Section 542 > > > * Maximum Penalty: Two years in prison and/or $250,000 fine > > > * Defendant Nine2Five LLC > > > * Money Laundering – Title 18, U.S.C., Section 1957 > > > * Maximum penalty: Five years of probation and $500,000 fine for an organization > > > > > > **AGENCIES** > > > > * Internal Revenue Service > > > * Homeland Security Investigations > > > * Customs and Border Protection > > > > > > **Contact** > > > > **Assistant U. S. Attorneys Melanie K. Pierson (619) 546-7976 and Joseph Orabona (619) 546-7951**| > > > > Updated July 10, 2023 > > > --- > > > Component > > > > [USAO - California, Southern](http://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca) > > > > Press Release Number: CAS23-0710-Guthery > >

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old.reddit.com

This has been bugging me for a long time. Every time if I am lucky enough to see a lab result from a reputed trusted vendor I am astonished...

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Following up on previous post [Other kratom communities](https://kbin.social/m/kratom/t/237324/Other-kratom-communities), here are links to RSS feeds to those communities where I was able to find them. For those who are interested. :) * [https://kbin.social/rss?magazine=kratom](https://kbin.social/rss?magazine=kratom) * [https://sh.itjust.works/feeds/c/kratom.xml?sort=Active](https://sh.itjust.works/feeds/c/kratom.xml?sort=Active) * [https://lemmy.world/feeds/c/kratom.xml?sort=Active](https://lemmy.world/feeds/c/kratom.xml?sort=Active) * [https://lemmy.ml/feeds/c/kratom.xml?sort=Active](https://lemmy.ml/feeds/c/kratom.xml?sort=Active) On lemmy you can add some arguments to the end of the URL if you want, for example, [https://sh.itjust.works/feeds/c/kratom.xml?sort=Active](https://sh.itjust.works/feeds/c/kratom.xml?sort=Active) but I haven't explored this much. Outside the fediverse: [https://old.reddit.com/r/kratom/.rss](https://old.reddit.com/r/kratom/.rss) [https://old.reddit.com/r/kratomm/.rss](https://old.reddit.com/r/kratomm/.rss) If I missed any, or if you have a better version of the above feeds, please share!

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http://archive.today/2023.07.30-044239/https://www.cbsnews.com/video/kratom-products-continue-to-draw-criticism-from-health-experts/

I am so sorry for this family and the loss of their child. Grieving people are not policy experts though. I don't know the details of the death report for this case but there are all kinds of issues with them in the US. The lawyers actually say they agree with many kratom users on some issues: that there should be regulation, safety warnings and limit to extravagant claims of benefit. However they then go on to conflate plant product with extracts. This video contains multiple unsourced "quotes" (like literally displayed on screen text with quotes around them) making strong factual claims. Then a strawman attributed to "critics" is used to seem balanced. x-posting link from !news_us@lemmy.link for the [comments](https://sh.itjust.works/post/1180074)

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Here are some other places where kratom is discussed. They are not specifically endorsed by this community. Just for informational purposes. **communities in the fediverse** Due to inconsistencies in how links to communities are handled, I have included each link in different formats. If one doesn't work try the next one on the same line. The best way to see all content in a community is to view it on the original instance (last link). * **`kratom@lemmy.world`:** [!kratom](https://lemmy.world/c/kratom) | [@kratom](https://lemmy.world/c/kratom) | [lemmy.world/c/kratom](https://lemmy.world/c/kratom) * **`kratom@sh.itjust.works`:** [!kratom](https://sh.itjust.works/c/kratom) | [@kratom](https://sh.itjust.works/c/kratom) | [sh.itjust.works/c/kratom](https://sh.itjust.works/c/kratom) * **`kratom@lemmy.ml`:** [!kratom](https://lemmy.ml/c/kratom) | [@kratom](https://lemmy.ml/c/kratom) | [lemmy.ml/c/kratom](lemmy.ml/c/kratom) * **`kratom@kbin.social`:** !kratom | [@kratom](https://kbin.social/m/kratom) | [kbin.social/m/kratom](kbin.social/m/kratom) Kratom communities outside the fediverse: * [Double M Herbals | Kratom Forum](https://www.doublemherbals.com/) * [reddit.com/r/Kratomm](https://old.reddit.com/r/Kratomm) * [reddit.com/r/Kratom](https://old.reddit.com/r/Kratom)

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