I disagree that we don’t outnumber them

And I told you polls everywhere prove you wrong, to which you said "try democracy". Thanks for the recap. It still doesn't make sense :D

Yeah, some people don't vote, but this group also has people from both sides.

ok, so that described strategy sounds almost like something that should be illegal. in fact it sounds very similarly to lot of stories that were happening here in central europe after fall of communism, when the state-owned companies were changing ownership and ending up in personal hands. lot of these stories did not end up well.

but no matter what, that strategy only covered part of the acquisition price, even according to these articles, so that is still not a reason for musk to intentionally drive the company into the ground.

• A: we outnumber them
• B: we don't
• A: try democracy

are you trying to say something or are you just generating random words?

twitter filing for bankruptcy doesn't absolve him of his loans. the loans are musk's, not twitter's.

The thing is, if the business shutters he no longer has to pay back that 13Bn, nor will he likely have to pay back a fair amount of the other debts.

why would you think that? most of the money were his loans, not some 3rd party investors. why tf would he not have to pay back?

you shouldn’t learn how to identify bad actors?

bad actor is not the same as bad argument. once you know someone is bad actor, you can just ignore them or kick them out and you don't have to bother with dissecting every single one of their sentences.

for example, after reading multiple comments by you, mainly defending asshole's right to bother others because what if they had some brilliant thought one day, i have come to conclusion that i don't want to waste any more time on your bad trolling and i am perfectly fine risking that i will miss some brilliant thought by you. welcome to my blocklist.

try what?

But it’s not a debate. They have no interest in listening to you, any facts you present, nor presenting any disputing facts.

the debate is not for them. it is for potential impartial observer who just encountered the problem for the first time and is now forming an opinion.

unfortunately it is really hard, because since the onset of the machine learning generators the pile of crap is literally endless.

You should be intelligent enough and convicted in your understanding of any point you argue strongly, that you will be able to identify an irrational or false argument.

yeah, no.

"identifying irrational and false argument" takes time and we have only limited amount of it here on earth. also, once you have identified irrational and false argument, there is no need to do it over and over again. we are under no obligation to sort through a pile of crap just to show we are the better people (whatever that phrase means for anyone)

and i say that as someone who was recently banned for "trolling" by some kid on a power trip to protect his cult from my arguments, so i should have understanding for your line of reasoning, but i don't.

as always in life, it is a matter of degree and it can be relative (which is the phrase that irself can be used to excuse almost anything, 😂)

Those are just the people that vote

and those are only people that matter.

If we didn’t have (...)

if my aunt had wheels, she would be a bike.

but if you are lazy or dumb debater, it is quite easy to label anything with any negative word you pull out of your hat in order to avoid the discussion that is hard for you.

The election results all over the world say otherwise

yeah, guess what, this is not your average home mortgage :D it is more complicated, but short story is yes, musk paid with his own money and money backed by his other property.

and no matter what, it still doesn't explain this nonsense you said:

I think the point is to destroy it so he doesn’t have to pay back what he borrowed to buy it.

not sure where this absurd idea of yours comes from, but it is still nonsense. no matter where he borrowed the money from, he has to return them, even if he drowns the twitter in gasoline and then set it on fire.

On April 20, Musk disclosed that he had secured financing provided by a group of banks led by Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, Barclays, MUFG, Société Générale, Mizuho Bank, and BNP Paribas, for a potential tender offer to acquire the company.[27][28] The funding included $7 billion of senior secured bank loans; $6 billion in subordinated debt; $6.25 billion in bank loans to Musk personally, secured by $62.5 billion of his Tesla stock; $20 billion in cash equity from Musk, to be provided by sales of Tesla stock and other assets; and $7.1 billion in equity from 19 independent investors.[29][30][31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_Twitter_by_Elon_Musk

How many people have issue with smth is not definition of a stretch, is it?

that's quite a stretch

she didn't say "say racist when you want to say brave". how does someone find this funny?

i just went through trailer and i have to say its visual does have serious star trek vibes 😆

unfortunately:

i have in my fridge and freezer:

1. big bag of frozen brussel sprouts (or asparagus)
2. whole wheel of blue cheese

take some sprouts, cover them with blue cheese and put it in the oven. it is not very elaborate meal, but it is fast and it is always there.

i'll leave this here...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-supporters-navajo-legislator-legal/

for flying through milky way, i can recommend elite dangerous.

for checking inside of the galaxy class, i can recommend the stage 9 project - galaxy class modeled in unreal engine. it got some lawsuit hit, so it was officially taken down, but is still available on torrent and it is quite cool experience.

https://www.messy-desk.co.uk/title/stage-9-virtual-enterprise-d-recreation/

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stage+9+star+trek