I see the Republican fake leftist vote suppression folks are out in force on lemmy tonight. And on a post about Trump calling for nuclear war on the Middle East, no less! The BoTh sIDes is strong with this one.

Ah the good old "but you support Hitler" debating line. Glad to see the mental acuity amongst the Republican supporters matching their leader.

You're so full of shit.

The fascists winning doesn't trouble you at all, though, which is weird for a leftist, no? I smell republicans in disguise.

Your greater evil rhetoric puts the actual fascists in charge of America. Did you read project 2025 yet? Or even a summary?

I agree that you didn't admit it.

Inconceivable!

Like I said, you're an accelerationist who wants it to get as bad as possible as far as possible because you think revolution will come sooner that way, and you don't care how bad the world gets in the meanwhile.

You're not saving anybody letting the fascists take over the government of the largest military.

You're a fake left winger because you spend so much time and effort supporting the fascists to win control over America.

No, it makes no difference at all. Trump will win or Harris will win. If Trump wins, the democrats will move right to try to win again.

Fake leftwingers like you would rather the actual fascists took over America.

You keep pretending third party voters are non-voters, which is definitionally false.

You keep pretending that choosing to not affect the outcome affects the outcome.

Well, unlike you, I can tell the difference between Hitler and the democratic party. You're so full of false equivalence.

If they move left, you'll still not vote for them because you're too pure to compromise and you will forever throw your supposedly leftist ideals on the dustbin of throwing what tiny tiny tiny power you have away and convincing anyone that shares your views to do the same.

Read theory. Join an org like FRSO or PSL.

Because Harris listens to what they say?! Your theories seem to result in you checking out of having any effect on the world. No thanks.

If your activism wasn't about to hand power to the literal fascists, it might have some appeal and I might think you were genuine or correct, but I can't tell the difference between republican trolls and tankies because they give the exact same advice - if you care, make sure you don't affect the outcome. What kind of shit advice is that?

They move right when they lose. So that they can win again.

They try to gain power, and they follow the votes that count towards the result. They ignore the votes that ignore the contest. You seem to think they pay attention to the non voters' views more than the voters views, which is irrational.

Are you genuinely being serious, here? Do you know what Left-Wing means? LMAO

I didn't say she was left wing, I said she was the most left wing candidate the democrats have fielded in decades. If she loses, the democrats will give up on trying to move left even a tiny bit. If she wins, they can safely move further left. But every time they lose, they move right, to compromise wry the voters who actually vote.

You seem to be confusing Biden and Harris, which is understandable, but not particularly clear headed.

Electoralism is death.

Please stop pretending to care. You're an acceleratist pretending to want things to get better. You clearly want it to get worse and you come up with the most backwards-on logic to pretend it'll make things better.

Do you think the Dems analyze the percentage of votes based on the beliefs of their voters?

No, I think they see the republicans win with right wing policies, sigh and say "I guess we've gotta do some of that shit to get elected."

Well, you go ahead and continue to push the democrats right then. I can't convince you. The outcome of the election will definitely convince the democrats. And I can tell you they will listen to the republican voters before they log on to lemmy.ml because there's so many more of them and they actually vote in a way that affects the outcome.