I meant specifically their stuff about national liberation.

I've read people like Stalin, Ho Chi Minh and Franz Fanon, I'm looking at reading some of the Black Panther's stuff, is that the kind of stuff you had in mind?

I do not support any of that and you know as I have repeatedly clarified that. I haven't attacked anyone, you've been the one doing that. I am doing literally everything within my small remit to oppose the US as much as I can, and I elaborate its crimes to anyone who will listen and some who won't, I've tried to organize within all of the small number of orgs that are active in my area and am finally having some success, however limited. I acknowledge openly how I benefit and openly also seek to abolish the system whereby that happens. I want nothing less than the total disestablishment of the United States and all settler colonial states in favor of sovereignty for indigenous people. I want an end to imperialism. I don't think there should be any quarter for US or Israeli cops or soldiers, including those I have known, they are to the person bad people. I don't know what it would take to convince you I'm not the monster you are making me out to be at all. If this is how you react to online discussion, I'd hate to know you in real life.

How is that remotely true?

Yeah, the CIA famously hires MLs. Are you seriously claiming that my mild criticism is tantamount to the actions worst criminal organization in world history? Hell, this is the 101 sub, you're supposed to be allowed to get something wrong. Your constant name calling is one of the most childish things I've ever experienced from a leftist. While I'm not judging your ideas by the way you're presenting them, some people will, and I hope you rethink that approach to correcting people.

I guess? It seems like this could really just be a misunderstanding of terms here. When you said power I thinking of power as being something I can exercise or use, especially on or to someone or something. I am explicitly acknowledging that I have the power to do/say a broad number of things that could hurt many people and get away with it, I am aware from statistics that I have access to more financial resources than many people in this country so I have at least some economic power, and I am aware that the majority of that money ultimately comes from exploitation of oppressed peoples here and abroad. This kind of power and others I didn't list, I have, absolutely. I guess I was thinking you meant something a little more explicit, as you did accuse me of being CIA earlier.

I've understood privilege in the context I am talking about, white racial privilege, to mean exemption from certain oppressions that others face rather than some sort of dispensation of power (of course other than to commit hate crimes and such). If that's an insufficient understanding, would you care to clarify?

This looks interesting and I will read it soon. Would you mind giving me a brief rundown, as it is quite long?

Would you prefer I said epithet? Is that more accurate?

You're right about white supremacy, didn't I essentially acknowledge that with my comment?

Do you mean like, being white I have the power to commit hate crimes? I mean, suppose, but like I said I wouldn't want to do that kind of thing any way.

What power do I have? I'm not a mod of any kind here, and if I had any power in society do you think I would be here? I'll grant I'm privileged, but power is something else that I neither have nor want.

What superiority complex? Please explain for me how having some mild criticisms of a group an wondering about their future if they were to continue to oppose Marxism and others in their country is a superiority complex. I would like to internalize what you are saying but I don't see how what you are saying is quite relevant. I don't pretend to be an expert, I don't pretend to be a leader, I am a random communist talking about something on a tiny internet website. I am hardly publishing a scathing rebuke of all that they are, nor would I want to.

You are right, calling it playing commune is too dismissive. They have accomplished something worth being proud of, hence why I have done what I can with my very limited influence to support them. I was over reacting to some of the stuff I got into on that anarchist site. It's very frustrating to see that there is such a gulf between people who should otherwise have a lot in common.

I've studied indigenous history, read some books written about specific peoples and events by members of those groups. They are not, counter to what you seem to think, a homogenous group. There are many different and disparate indigenous peoples and political structures, and they do not all believe the same things or get along. Please go read about some of the war that were fought over colonialism and you will see how your idea of the indigenous being a united front is wrong. I would like to see a united front of all of them, but I don't think that Zapatistas are that way inclined. I could be wrong, and perhaps they will demonstrate that. Hence, critical support.

Like I said, it is a weak one, but it is none the less childish to call someone you disagree with names like this.

Go back and actually read what I wrote.. I asked if it might happen, I never advocated for it. Hold you fucking horses for a second. As I said to someone else, you could have answered the question any way you wanted, and rather than doing that attacked me as hating indigenous people for speculating about conflict between what I am proposing would be a large front including many indigenous people against one specific group. I never suggested that the people that live in Chiapas should be, need to be, or would in this hypothetical be killed, I am talking about conflict between discreet political organizations, and in the scenario I am setting out neither could be said to represent indigenous people in general.

I mean, I phrased it as question because it was. You could have answered the question in any way you chose, and immediately jumped to attacking me as a chauvinist. I don't think I get to decide what they do, but I'm free to be skeptical of their choices not to affiliate with others (I make the same criticism of the IWW). I didn't claim I'm on the same level as someone engaged in armed struggle and even acknowledged I wasn't before, I don't know what point you think you're making there.

I am not suggesting "getting rid" of anyone. Where do you think I said that? I am talking about a political of two ideologies that do not get along potentially fighting each other, not ethnic cleansing or genocide, and that is completely clear. I am clearly advocating solidarity between indigenous groups, and between peasants and proletarians, and you think this is somehow the CIA. I have made clear I am not advocating violence against them, but rather entertaining what you seem not to acknowledge is the possibility of conflict between Marxists and non-Marxists. I have clarified that I think indigenous people need to at the center of the socialist movement in Mexico, and this has convinced you that I hate indigenous people, makes perfect sense. Their rejection of Marxism could put them at odds with a broader nationwide movement in the future, and that is what I am talking about.

Again, what ways have you supported them, other than suggesting that I hate them, which you seem to think is super helpful to them.

Appeals to normality now, huh? How's it going? This was in a thread talking about their ideology, and how it is opposed to Marxism. I am not pitting a Mexican settler state against indigenous people in general, I am expecting that a socialist state in Mexico would needs center and prioritize indigenous people, and suggesting that that state might end up in conflict with a specific indigenous organization with a passionate difference in ideology.

I'm not fantasizing about it, I was asking if it might have to happen. This is not the same as saying that it is should happen, this is wondering if conflict between militant non-Marxists and militant Marxists might come to pass, as it often has before. I reiterate, in what way have you done more than me?